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----- Original Message -----
From: Rickabero@aol.com
To: rparmele@interbel.net
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: questions I need answered

 
I have read your writings posted in your site, and while I did so I recalled 1 Samuel 17:4-11. If others have been like the israelites, I am not in fear to come up and give you the answer you want. Here is the beginning of my answer to your query:
 
First of all: You do not want answers. You do not want to know what truth really is. Let me explain myself: You got arguments and you got the answers. Nobody is going to move you from what you got. Even if the same Christ comes to you and answers all your questions, you are not going to believe Him. Do you know why? Well, you are an 'unbeliever in your heart' in the strict sense of the word. And, which it is worst, you are not sincere in your heart.
 
Second: You want an answer to your first question in regard E. G., White 'without using E. G White writings'. Well, that's impossible. I cannot answer things in regard yourself without using your own declarations. We must get E. G. White speaking by herself in order to answer your first question. I hope you are able to see my point.
 
Third: Can you show me a supernatural prophecy made by Moses, Daniel or John (the author of Revelation)? Let's apply to them the same rule you want to apply on E. G. White: By super natural I mean, one that she truly got from God, not from someone else or from the bible, anyone can do that. I mean one with - Who, What, When, Where and Time. Not where a well was to be dug, or which horse to buy. To be honest, we must validate the gift given to them first before to start validating E. G. White's.
 
As soon as you let me know you have solved this three things I have forementioned in my letter, I will be able to answer your questions 2-10. Piece of cake!

 REPLY:

         That's what this web site is all about. Can God foretell "THE END FROM THE BEGINNING". If you will put your prejudice aside and go to the Q@A section you will find all the promises God has made that are being fulfilled right before our eyes. Of course you'll need to quote Ellen White fulfilled prophecies in order to answer question 1.  But you don't need Ellen White to prove your doctrines remember? That's why you have been asked to answer the doctrinal questions without her. I already now what she has said about herself, I need answers, because what she prophesied hasn't come true. How after you have read the remaining Q@A come back to me with your answers and I'll post them below my answers. From a "Believer in God" alone.              Ron Parmele
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: questions I need answered
Your answer posted in your site ask me "if you put your prejudice aside..." However, what about your own prejudices, dear Ron? Are you ready to put aside your own prejudices? Your site, your personal sketch, and your recent answer, show you are plenty of them. There is not constructive inter dialogue if somebody demands others to set aside prejudices while at the same time that one has no willingness to set aside his own.
 
To show you a button as a sample? Well, your post reads: "That's why you have been asked to answer the doctrinal questions without her. I already now what she has said about herself." If you know what 'she has said' why you dare asking somebody having answers for you? In saying the truth on this subject, and on the other nine you ask for, you do not want an answer to them. You want to feed your ego. You want to prove yourself you are in control. Here you are playing to be God: You got all the questions and you got all the answers. SDA Church leaders, preachers, and so on, are wrong and ignorant. Nobody can beat you. You do not expect an answer to start digging for truth and light. You posses the truth! Wow, what arrogance!  
 
Out of your question # 1 (which of course you already noticed what was wrong on it), I do not need E. G. White to prove doctrines. Bible stands alone to prove itself. As I told you before, answer my points # 1 and 3 which I mentioned to you prior this email. I will answer your points 2-10 with the Bible alone. Piece of cake!
 
By the way, what amazes me in reading your Q@A page is that you like quoting a lot of 'external references' out of the Bible to prove your points of view. Why is it so? Why do not enforce yourself to start using the Bible and the Bible alone to support your ideas as you want to get the same from your readers?

Dear Ron:

 
Sorry, buy I can see you did not read my email. First, I pointed out a passage of the Bible, and you did not take time to read it. Otherwise you should understood I do not need to speak 'for the SDA Church.' If you want answers from the Church, you know the regular administrative channels we have. Go trough them, and I know for sure you will receive answers from the SDA Church. Second, because you brag a lot in your public site and I received from you a general spam email (I see it as a personal challenge, instead of a 'corporative' request to the SDA Church), I took stand to answers your questions. Third, I asked you also considering points 1 and 3 before I take time answering your ten questions. You did not, and I understand why. So, write me again when you are ready to establish a true dialogue on the questions you have posted out in your public site.

 
Dear Doctor,
    I read your Bible verse the first thing.
 
    4And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.
   5And he had an helmet of brass upon his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of brass.
   6And he had greaves of brass upon his legs, and a target of brass between his shoulders.
   7And the staff of his spear was like a weaver's beam; and his spear's head weighed six hundred shekels of iron: and one bearing a shield went before him.
   8And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me.
   9If he be able to fight with me, and to kill me, then will we be your servants: but if I prevail against him, and kill him, then shall ye be our servants, and serve us.
   10And the Philistine said, I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together.
   11When Saul and all Israel heard those words of the Philistine, they were dismayed, and greatly afraid.
I didn't get the point, are you David going against me, or are you claiming I am by going against the Church (the big bad Goliath)? So who do you speak for?
    One year ago I sent my site in booklet form to the regular channels all the way up to the top. I told them I would put it along with their answers on the internet. They never even responded. You now have excess to all the documents that I have been able to get,by clicking on to them. You can read them for yourself. How you to can ask the White Estates for copies.
You would know that if you had read my site.
    Go to Q@A and you will find 11 parts to pick from, over 40 questions, pick a few and you will soon see they also have my answers as I see it. You are not to take my answers as the final word on the subject. I'm a nobody compare to a Doctor like you.
    This is a corporative request to the SDA leadership as they will over ride any and all posted answers. If they will just respond. So far they have not. It's been over a year. As to your 1 and 3 points. I told you that my site is just for that propose. It proves the God know the End from the beginning by His fulfilled prophecies. If you don't think any other bible writer has done any better than Ellen White. How can you believe the Bible is the word of God. That's the test. You really need to read the questions I pose.   Ron Parmele 

First, I know you took time to read the Text I gave. In fact, I come out as David because trough your site you have been bragging as Goliath. All your 'questions and answers' are like 'helmet brass' and 'coat of mail' for you. You feel invincible! I do not need to come in name of a Church to face you. I come alone to you.

Second, I gave you my title and name because you asked for. Title or Church position means nothing to me at the time to take the Bible and seek what truth is. You can be fourth 'generation adventist' as you declare, and that means nothing when you have a no converted heart to God (Judges 2:10.) 
 
Third: You want direct answer to your questions. Otherwise, you have a lot of Internet sites or books where you can get those answers. But no one, even the same Bible which you profess reading and revering, will convince you of wrong doing. The problem is within you.

Fourth: As you have the right to demand direct answers, I also have that right. In sending to me to read your post (which I have done, of course) you are not specific to answer the questions I demanded before. Yesterday I wrote to you to more email. Did you considered them? Still pending are the answers to my first #1 and #3 questions.

 
Fifth: Matthew 18:15-35 should have been the starting point and the end of your query. I fear you skipped those steps to go directly to the White Estates, and as well as in going public trough your site. They won't waste time answering questions the SDA Church has answered long time ago. Do you want an advice? Go back in time to that Church where you asked to be accepted as a member and fight your battle with God over there. Take out of your heart all the accumulated bitterness against the Church you have been keeping for so long. Allow God freeing you from that burden. Your life will be complete and plenty. Life is so beautiful and is worthless to smear it with angriness and bitterness as you have been doing so far.

 

Dr. Rick Cabero
Alaska Conference
 
Dear Mr. Rickabero,
      I have posted your reply to my ten top questions at the bottom of that page. Thanks for the reply. You pointed out a change I needed to make in your #2. Thanks. I also added my response.
      If you want to provide your position in the SDA church I would like to add it. The questions at Q@A is the best place to respond to my questions if you want it posted below my answers but you must be willing to let me know if you are speaking for the SDA church, as a whole, by giving your position in the church I think you understand why. If someone of higher position claims you are not speaking for the church I'll have to take your answer off. Let's see what happens. Ron   
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: rickabero@aol.com
To: rparmele@interbel.net
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: questions I need answered

 
Dear Ron:

 
Sorry, buy I can see you did not read my email. First, I pointed out a passage of the Bible, and you did not take time to read it. Otherwise you should understood I do not need to speak 'for the SDA Church.' If you want answers from the Church, you know the regular administrative channels we have. Go trough them, and I know for sure you will receive answers from the SDA Church. Second, because you brag a lot in your public site and I received from you a general spam email (I see it as a personal challenge, instead of a 'corporative' request to the SDA Church), I took stand to answers your questions. Third, I asked you also considering points 1 and 3 before I take time answering your ten questions. You did not, and I understand why. So, write me again when you are ready to establish a true dialogue on the questions you have posted out in your public site.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Parmele <rparmele@interbel.net>
To: Rickabero@aol.com'
Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:26 am
Subject: Re: questions I need answered

 

Okay I'll try to answer your questions 1,2,3
 
1. What's the question? I'm a believer in God if that's the question? I'm not a believer in Ellen White, or the doctrines of the SDA church. I think that's pretty clear. I have a heart for the Adventist people, I want to see them in heaven so badly.
 
2. I have been searching for 26 years for answers to my questions, I've asked these questions of countless Pastors and most of them say they never believed Ellen White was as inspired as any other Bible writer. And I have been told over and over that they do not believe in 1844 and 2300 days. etc. As close as I can tell at least half no longer believe. You and one other guy are the only ones that have condemned me out of over 200 email I have gotten so far. They are in it for their retirement. I'm every close to a lot of them as they where room mates at College and Academy. We just had our 50th reunion in July,07 They're retiring and can't wait to be away from it all. 
 
3. There are so many. I've listed them on the site.
Moses' two path for Israel Lev.26. He lays out the whole  history of the Jews in advance, same thing in Deut.28,30.
 
If you understand Daniel 9:24-27 he does the same thing.
Jere. 31,32 ,Eze. 36,37,38,39 all tell of a restoring of Israel as a nation, in the end times. Ps. 83 is like reading today's newspaper. All the Nations that come against Israel are Muslim and they are cased into the pit. Eze. 28-32.
 
Revelation tell us about the church age Rev.1-3 The 70th week of Dan.9 is all laid out in great detail in the rest of Revelation.
 
Why am I doing this, it's all in the website-plus. Read it!  Look Rick I don't know how long you have been an Adventist, but if you don't think the bible foretells the future far better than Ellen White you just haven't studied your Bible. The bible is 100%. Ellen White isn't even close. Find be one prophecy she made that came true. That's the test. Ron Parmele
 
 
Dr. Rick Cabero
Alaska Conference
First, I have never talked about E. G. White as a foreteller and I did not use her to talk with you. It is your own animosity toward her what helps you to mention that lady every time you think something.
Second, my "question" # 1 is not a "question". It is a statement about you. You do not believe in nothing except in yourself. Believer in God? Well, the devil also believes in God. There is not difference between his faith and yours.
 
Third: For 26 years you have been an unhappy person. There has been 26 years of frustration, angriness, and bitterness that you have been dragging out in your life. That is the true nature of your animosity against the Church and its leaders.
 
Fourth: The passages of the Bible you just gave me are dubious in 'your interpretation' to prove your point, and mean nothing to show a 'supernatural' prophecy made by Moses, Daniel, or John, as you want to ask the same supernatural feature from E. G. White. Why Moses, reputed being greater 'prophet' among the jews, did not speak about the falling of the Communism or the German Holocaust? Why Daniel did not speak about America, Sadam Hussein, and the Iraq war? Why John did not speak supernaturally about Osama bin Laden and the towers of New York? Are they not prophets because they did not speak the 'foretelling' you want listen from a prophet? My point is this: First, those were not relevant messages for them and their generation. What is the relevance of the foretelling you demand from E. G. White in your page? No, not one relevancy at all, except to satisfy you with your rules you put to measure a prophet. Once again, on that point you are speaking as God!
 
Fourth: 200 email or two million of them that you receive does not mean you are right. It is enough just one to destroy your pretenses. Look the History and recall the Medieval reformers and scientists. The whole world was against them. But they prevail alone.
 
Fifth: The 'true test' is not E. G. White 'prophecies'. The test is your own pride. Where did you leave your prejudices and other things I talked about in other email? You do not answer those things because they touch the real nature of your heart. You do not have a word about them?

Rick I need you to go to YOU TUBE and search for Walid Shoebat prophecy 101 watch parts 1-11 You'll see Bible Prophecy as never before. Let me know what you think. This is what part six of my website is all about.  Ron 

Why you do not send me to 'watch" what the Bible says? Answer with the Bible my questions, not with videos or web sites! Please, read the last two lines of my email down.

               Dear Ron

I have seen good pastors, evangelists, teachers, and excellent members of Church. I have seen their devotion and commitment. I have been in good relationship with them and I got my best friends among them. I have seen their faces, happy faces, filled with the Spirit of Christ. Although all of them are sinners and filled out with flawless, I have seen the brilliant side of the Christian life in them. I have friends around the Globe and have seen the hand of God with His Church. That's the difference between you and me. 

 
You have been looking and counting down the creepy side of devil and sin. The same struggles and problems you point out, perhaps doubled or tripled in proportion, will find in other Church or denomination around you. But, guess what? You have been looking just trash your whole life! You have seen nothing else. And, because the spirit you are nurturing each day in your life, if the same Jesus were at your side, you would find faults in Him! I do not understand how can you dare being 'a happy person' in that fashion.

 
Do you remember the parable of Lazarus and the rich man? Do you remember what the dogs were doing? I would recommend you in reading that story once more for your own sake. It is amazing: you have been doing by 26 years now, the same thing Jesus Christ told dogs were doing! Do you call it 'happiness'? 

You say: "God has called me to go to my loved ones..." It seems to me you do not know what LOVE is like. What you call 'love' is not other thing than 'revenge' and 'hate' and 'pain' and 'critic' and so on, that stem from the things you have seen and suffered in your own flesh, which of course you confuse with 'love' and 'happiness'. Nope, sorry to say, but you are not a happy person. That is the spirit your Page and letters transpire.  
 
You also say: "The SDA church needs to repent and turn to God." What about you, dear Ron? Do you think you do not need the same spiritual work in your life?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Parmele <rparmele@interbel.net>
To: rickabero@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 3:22 am
Subject: Re: questions I need answered
 
         Rick, I have never been happier in my life. God has given me the greatest wife in the world. We have been married 26 years now. I've never been blessed so. I'm debt free. I live in the best place in the world. Have all the food I need. Go south in the winter if I want. Enjoy family and friends. I know you think I'm Bitter, but I'm not. My pain is for you and the lost sheep of Israel. I want so much to see you all in heaven. Read MY STORY.
        When I was an SDA I was in pain most of the time. My heart was broken as I saw the minster who married my first wife and I lose his post as President of Alaska Conf. over an affair. The pastor at our church in Beaverton had an affair with his music leader and left. Our Pastor in Hawaii was caught with the hippies in a sex orgies and was fired, and the school principle left because he was gay.  Our Pastor in Portland's biggest Church left his wife and children. Both principles I had at Laurelwood Academy had affairs and both left the church. The village church pastor had an affair with the farm managers wife. The accountants wife was having affairs with the boys at the academy. The Deans wife was caught in the closet with the Factory Manager he was fired and she quit. I could go on and on. Out of all my classmates nearly 3/4 of us went through divorce. More than half are no longer in a church at all. 
       I wanted you to hear Walid Shoebat because he'll show you were the bible is telling us today the things you are wanting to see. Of course you'll have to watch it.
       I know you haven't been an Adventist very long and a lot of what I'm telling you makes it look like I'm bitter. But God has called me to go to my Loved Ones before it to late. I can't do any other. The SDA church needs to repent and turn to God. You can't see it yet but as you study the Bible more you will you.   Love your friend in Christ  Ron
 
P.S.
By the way if the Bible contained the whole and every stock on earth a quill, the ink the ocean fill all, the sky a scroll, it couldn't content the whole. The Bible is the word of God. 
 
Just watch the video on you tube, you'll understand. I have linked to it at the end of Part six.
 

You do not love nobody, dear Ron. As I told you: you do not know what love is. If you love somebody that one is yourself!

Because you sent an spam email inviting me to answer your questions, I did so. Then you posted your answer, and I wrote again. For several days, we play that 'democratic game' time after time. What I am trying to say is that the 'right of replica' is with me. That means: I got the 'last word' in the debate, not you. So, I will take advantage of that democratic law to say something else to you:
 
First: I came to you alone to answer your query as David did against Goliath. You never answer my questions, no one of them.
 
Second: If you are honest and decent person, your page will say something like this: 'TEN QUESTIONS THAT PASTORS, LEADERS AND SDA CHURCH DID NOT ANSWER TO ME... EXCEPT ONE: DR. RICK CABERO.' Well, I will let with you the right wordings as a homework.
 
Third: If you have an speckle of decency to honor your own words, you will also post in your site the entire emails we have interchanged. 

Fourth: I wrote to you, answering your challenge as a TESTIMONY against you, hoping you and your readers will acknowledge that there is one person, with his Bible in hand, who dared to answer your questions. But you I am not in panic and fear in regard you and your arguments. Whenever you want to continue the battle you've started I will be waiting you. In coming back, its up to you. 

Fifth: You just want to listen people commending you for what you have written. You do not love people like me, who are able to face and debunk your arguments with the Bible alone. I know for sure that this days of mailing have been a real nightmare for you!

Sixth: Do not play to be a moron. A lot of creepy people like you have tried to sink the 'SDA Church boat' but all of them are dead now, while the SDA Church remains strong than ever. You know their names and sad stories. By the way, if you wish, that is one of the 'supernatural' proves you desperately are asking for. This Church will stand up till the end and you will pass away. 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Parmele <rparmele@interbel.net>
To: rickabero@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: Answers

 
I LOVE YOU TO.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Parmele <rparmele@interbel.net>
To: rickabero@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 3:22 am
Subject: Re: questions I need answered
 
Dear Mr. Rickabero,
      I have posted your reply to my ten top questions at the bottom of that page. Thanks for the reply. You pointed out a change I needed to make in your #2. Thanks. I also added my response.
      If you want to provide your position in the SDA church I would like to add it. The questions at Q@A is the best place to respond to my questions if you want it posted below my answers but you must be willing to let me know if you are speaking for the SDA church, as a whole, by giving your position in the church I think you understand why. If someone of higher position claims you are not speaking for the church I'll have to take your answer off. Let's see what happens. Ron  

       I HAVE TAKEN THE TEN TOP QUESTIONS OFF THE SITE, AS IT BECAME THE ONLY THING PEOPLE WANTED TO ANSWER, THEY NEVER LOOKED AT THE OTHER QUESTIONS WHICH INCLUDED THE TOP TEN.   RON

THE DOCTORS LAST EMAIL;

Dear Ron:
I gave a look to your site and in reading what you posted in regard our e-mailing, I take my hat out of my head and make a reverence. You are a man of honor, and I commend you. 
 
However, there is something bothering me: I noticed you posted: "SDA answer to question number... Rick Cabero from the Alaska Conference" I answered you not as SDA Church or an Alaska Conference representative. I answered you representing myself, which means, I am not speaking for the whole Church. As I told you before, there is administrative channels in SDA Church to get from them what you want. I cannot control if you are not receiving from those channels the answers you demand. Because your readers might being deceived thinking mine are 'SDA official answers', I will suggest you amending that wording to fit what is real: I am speaking by myself.
 
I have read once again the questions you posted and your own answers to them. All of them easily to answer and debunk with the Bible! It is a pity that while rejecting the SDA message, you ended accepting theories which are a part of the widespread dispensationalist and zionist ideas that plague the evangelicals churches around us (including those of W. Shoebat.) But, you have freedom to decide what you want to believe. Its up to you.
 
So, I will appreciate if you are able in doing that correction I am asking for.  

 

I DID.   RON